Gaazexaan Bariisaa fuula kanaratti keessummoota adda addaa afeerrattee dubbistootaaf dhiyeessaa jiraachuun ni yaadatama. Maxxansa kanaanis gaafdeebii dargaggoo damee teknolojiitiin biyyasaa jijjiiruuf of kenneefi dhimmamee hojjetaa jiru wajjin taasisne isin dubbisiisna.
Bariisaa: Wal haa barruutii eenyurraa, yoom, eessatti dhalatte?
Naa’ol: Naa’ol Dhaabaan jedhama. Abbaa koo Obbo Dhaabaa Dabalee (hogganaa Biiroo Qonnaafi Qabeenya Uumamaa Oromiyaa)fi haadha koo Aadde Warqinash Birruu (Daayirektara Ejensii Bulchiinsa Fandii Beenyaa Federaalaa) irraan bara 1989 Godina Shawaa Lixaa, Magaalaa Amboottin dhaladhe.
Bariisaa: Barumsa eessatti jalqabde?
Naa’ol: Barumsa kanin jalqabe bakkuma dhaloota koo, Magaalaa Ambootti. Sana booda Finfinnee dhufeen Mana Barumsaa Sadarkaa Lammaffaa ‘Hiil Saayid’ jedhamutti kutaa 1fa hanga 4fatti baradhee, kutaa 5fadhaa hanga 9fatti ammoo Mana Barumsaa Andinnat Intarnaashinaal jedhamuttin hordofe. Kutaa 10fatti iskoolaarshiippii argadhee gara Ameerikaatti qajeele. Ameerikaatti mana barumsaa bulmaataatti ofumaa nyaata qopheeffachaafi hojjechaan baradhe.
Bariisaa: Iskoolaarshiippii kana eenyutu sii mijeesse ykn akkamitti argatte?
Naa’ol: Iskoolaarshiippiicha qabxiin barumsa koorratti galmeessiseefi pirojektota adda addaa qopheessaa tureenin argadhe. Otoon kutaa 4fa barachaa jiruu dinnichaafi fuduraalee biroorraa akkamitti elektirikii maddisiisuun akka danda’amu kalaquuf irra deddeebiin yaalaan ture. Kalaqichi ammoo dorgommiif kan dhiyaatu ture.
Uumamuma kootiin waanin mo’atamuu hinjaalanneef ganamaan ka’ee dhagaa baatirii qabadhee bakka dorgommichaa deeme. Dinnicha karaa jalaa suuta jedhee akka hinmul’annetti baqaqsee (muree) dhagaa baatirii keessa kaa’ee oggaan walqunnamsiisee yaalu ni ife.
Dorgomsiistonni oggaa kana argan daran ajaa’ibsiifatan. Akkamitti haala kanaan ifa jedhaniis waan jedhan dhaban. Dorgommicha kan qopheesse Mana Barumsaa Andinnat Intarnaashinaali. Kan badhaafames waan dinnichi sun ifa kenneef otoo hintaane tooftaan itti fayyadameeni.
Yeroo sana hawaasni mana barumsaa mucaa dinnicha ibsu jechuun na waamaa turan. Egaa pirojektota akkanaarratti daran hirmaachaan ture. Keessoo mi’aa gondolchuufi caccabsuu, banee deebisee warshaaluun jaaladha. Ani sirumayyuu ennaan mi’a wayii argadhe ittiin taphachuurra banuusaan jaaladha. Kanaaf waanin ittiin taphadhu oggaa naa bitan akkan banu beekanii naa bitu.
Bariisaa: Ameerikaa deemtee maalirratti bobbateree? Umriin kee hoo meeqa ture?
Naa’ol: Yeroon Ameerikaa deemu mucaa waggaa 15n ture. Ameerikaattis hojiilee kalaqaa danuun hojjedhe. Qofaa koo waanin ta’eef of danda’uun qaba jedheen tattaafachaa ture. Hojiilee tola ooltummaa adda addaarrattis hirmaachaan ture. Kushiinaa keessatti nyaata bilcheessuu, mana qulqulleessuu, hojiilee qonnaafaarrattis hirmaachaan ture.
Kanaanis kaampaasiitti beekamaan dhufe. Waggaa tokkoofi walakkaatti hojii tola ooltummaa sa’aatiiwwan 100 kennamu qabu ani darbaa hojjedhee kuma tokko guute. Sa’aatiiwwan kanneen kuufaachuuf akkuman dareedhaa baheen waan tokko hojjetaan jira jechuudha. Otoon hojii tola ooltummaa sana hojjechuu baadhee amalli koo baduu danda’a ture. Fedhiifi kaka’umsi hojiis ta’e waa kalaquu keessa kootti hinuumamu ture. Kaka’umsan waa hojjechuurratti qabu dabalachuufan hojiilee tola ooltummaarratti hirmaachaa ture.
Bariisaa: Miirri akkanaa keessoo keetti akka uumamu kan si taasise maalinni?
Naa’ol: Kanaaf waanti ijoofi bu’uurri haala maatiin koo itti na guddiseedha.
Bariisaa: Ati maatii keetiif ilma meeqaffaadha?
Naa’ol: Ilma lammaffaadha. Obboleettota hangafa tokkoofi quxisuu sadiin qaba.
Bariisaa: Maatiin koo ana har’aa keessatti iddoo qabu jetteettaa amala namaa (maatii) akkamiin ibsita mee?
Naa’ol: Amalli namaa (maatii) waantota lamaan dhiibbaa qabaata. Kanneen keessaa tokko uumama. Lammaffaa ammoo naannawa. Uumamaan bifa koofi kkf nan argadha. Kanarratti yaada homaa kennuu hindanda’u. Garuu akka naannawaatti maatiin, manni barumsaafi hiriyoonnifaa waan jiraniif kunniin hundi amala namaa keessatti waan gumaachaan qabu.
Haala kanaan abbaafi haadha keerraa maal baratte yoo naan jette of kennanii ummata tajaajiluudha. Isaan takkaa ummata tajaajiluurraa duubatti jedhanii hinbeekan. Yeroo hunda ummataaf dhama’uun keessoosaaniitti bocameera. Kanarraa ka’uun keessa kootti yaadni, “Anoo ummata kootiif” jedhu uumamuu danda’e.
Bariisaa: Kana yoom hubatte, gara waa kalaquutti akka seentuuf maaltu ka’umsa sii ta’e?
Naa’ol: Ani yeroof hinbeekne ture. Garuu keessoo kootti bocamee taa’ee tureera. Ani hiriyaa horachuurratti baay’een of qusadha. Hiriyaa nan filadha. Hiriyoota hinbaay’isu. Eessaafi eenyu wajjin akkan oolu nan filadha. Hojiis haaluma kanaanin eegale. Maddi kaka’umsa kootis kanuma.
Bariisaa: Oggaa Ameerikaa, Misisippiittii barataa turte waanti si mudate hinjiruu?
Naa’ol: Jira malee. Yeroon kutaa 12farraa eebbifamuf jedhu manumti barumsaa koo na waamee sababa maallaqni ispoonsarshiippii waan garasaatti hindabarreef akkan eebbifamuu hindandeenye natti hime. Yeroo jedhametti hineebbifamu taanaan ammoo waggaa tokkoofin tura. Kanarraa ka’uun oggaan kana dhagahu baay’ee nahe.
Otuman kanaan jiruu manni barumsichaa isan barachaa hojjedhu sa’aatiidhaan lakkaa’aa turan. Kanarraa ka’uunis ispoonsarootaaf kun eeramee xalayaan barreeffame. “Maallaqicha ofuma keessaniif hambifadhaa, nutuu isa dandeenyeerraa jedhee” mannumti barumsichaa na danda’ee eebbifamee ba’e.
Bariisaa: Tattaaffii kee kana barattoonni kaan beekuu?
Naa’ol: Eeyyee. Hojiin koo dargaggoota birootiif fakkeenyummaan eeramaa ture. Manni barumsaa itti baradhe faalasama HHH (head, hand, heart) ykn ‘Sammuutti fayyadamuu, harkaan onneerraa hojjechuu’ jedhamu qaba. Yeroo eebbaatti oggaa barattoonni kuun gaddaa daarektaricha biraa bahan ani gammachuudhaanin utaale. Kun bu’aa tattaaffii koofi hojii tola ooltummaa irratti bobba’e waan ta’eefis guddaan gammadde.
Bariisaa: Eddii eebbifamte garas deemtee maalirrati bobbaateree?
Naa’ol: Ittaansee Misiisippiirraa gara Siyaatil deemeen Fiiziksii baradhe. Achittis pirojektota adda addaarratti hirmaachuu ittin fufe. Hojii rookkeettiifi saatalaayitiifaarratti qooda fudhachaan ture. Umriin koo waan dabaleef Siyaatilitti hojii tola ooltummaa hojjechuu hindandeenye.
Kanaaf waan maallaqa argamsiisu hojjedhee of danda’uu akkan qabu yaade. Boordii yunivarsiitii kan muudu kantiibaa Magaalaa Waashingitan waan ta’eef isa biratti iyyata galfadhee achi keessa waggaa tokkoof hojjedhe. Laayibirarii guddaa tokko keessa hojjechuufis iyyadhee isas argadhe. Kana maddiitti barumsa koos baradhee digrii jalqabaa fudhadhe.
Bariisaa: Digrii kee lammaffaa hoo eessatti, maal baratte?
Naa’ol: Barumsa digrii lammataa ittifufuuf gara Chikaagootti qajeelee Ikkonomiksiidhaan fixe. Otuman dachaadhaan hojjechaa baradhuu umriin koo waggaa 22 guute.
Bariisaa: Yoom gara biyyaatti dhufte, warri kaanoo eddii dulloomanii deebi’uu ati umrii dargaggummaa kanatti akkamitti gara biyyaatti deebi’uuf murteessite?
Naa’ol: Eddii mootummaan jijjiirameen dhufe. Sana dura maatiin akkan dhufuuf barbaadaa turanillee haalli siyaasaa biyya keessa ture gaarii waan hinturreef dhufuu hindandeenye. Akkuma atuu jette warri kaan eddii maallaqa kuufataniifi dulloomanii gara biyyaatti dhufu. Ani garuu durumaa qabee gara Itoophiyaatti deebi’uun keessa koo ture.
Kanas haalan itti gorfamaa guddadhetu na onnachiise. Yaada ummata ofii tajaajiluu jedhutu keessa koo ture. Ani waa’ee siyaasaa hinhordofu. Feesbuukiis hinfayyadamu. Oggaan darbee darbee miidiyaarraa dhagahu dargaggoonni akka wallolaniifi siyaasa keessatti hirmaataa jiranin hubadhe.
Bariisaa: Eddii waa’ee siyaasaa kaaftee, ammaan tana dargaggoonni baay’een waa’eedhuma siyaasaa qofa odeessaa oolan. Kanarratti yaada akkamii qabda mee?
Naa’ol: Ani namni waa’ee siyaasaa hinbaranneefi hinbeekne siyaasa keessatti hirmaachuu hinqabu ejjennoo jedhun qaba. Inni waa’ee ikkonomiksii barate waa’eedhumasaa qofa hordofuu qaba. Hundumtii waanuma baraterratti xiyyeeffachuu qaba malee walkeessa borcuu hinqabu. Biyya keenyatti hundumtuu ogummaasaa malee siyaasa keessa galuun na ajaa’iba. Ummanni hangana baay’atu attamitti humnasaa waan ogummaasaa hintaanerratti balleessa jedheen dinqama. Humna qofa otoo hintaane namas ni fixu. Adeemsi kun bitaa natti gala.
Bariisaa: Achitti hafuuf carraa qabdaayyuu?
Naa’ol: Carraan jira. Sii mijeessu. Ana isa achitti barate dhiisii eenyuyyuu asii deemee hojii barbaaderratti bobba’ee jiraachuu danda’a. Anatti kan mul’atu ogummaa fiiziksii baradheen ummata koo tajaajiluudha. Baay’inni ummata Itoophiyaa harka 1/3fa baay’ina ummata Ameerikaati. Garuu sadarkaan jireenyaa keenya gadaanaadha. Haalli jireenyaafi baay’inni keenya walhingitu. Kunis daran na dinqa. Oggaan kana taa’ee yaadu akkan dhufuu qabun murteesse. Dhufee haala dargaggoota wajjin hojjechuun danda’amurratti tattaaffii eegale.
Bariisaa: Eddii dhuftee hojiin qabatamaan eegalte jiraa? Gargaarsi qaama dhimmi ilaallatuun sii taasifame maal fakkaata?
Naa’ol: Biyyan turee eddiin dhufee saatalaayitiifi rookkeettiifaa hojjechuun barbaada. Kanaafis Ministeera Innooveeshiniifi Teknolojiitti pirojektii dhiyeeffadhe. Pirojekticha ministirri ministeerichaa, Doktar Injiinar Geetaahun Makuriyaa daran jaalatan. Pirojektichis saatalaayitii ofuma kootii hojjedhee maanfufaakchariingiisaa asumatti banuun kaayyeffadhe.
Itoophiyaatti waa’een saatalaayitii yaadamu kan eegale waggaa 10 dura. Doktar Abiyyis umriisaa waggaa 30tti biyya kanatti hojjetamuu qaba jedhee hojiisaa kan eegale. Kan yeroo darbe furguggifamtes kan inni yeroo sana jalqabeedha. Saatalaayitiin biyya keenyaaf daran barbaachisaadha. Odeeffannoo guddaas achirraa arganna, odeeffannoo malee eessayyuu qaqqabuu waan hindandeenyeef. Duraan qabeenyi guddaan albuuda ture. Har’a qabeenyi guddaan daataa ta’eera. Of bira dabarreeyyuu biyyoota birootiif kireessinee maallaqa guddaa argachuu dandeenya. Amma eddiin dhufee waggaa tokkoofi ji’a afur keessatti waa’eedhuma kanaarratti tattaafachaa jira.
Bariisaa: Pirojektiin ati ministeerichaaf dhiyeessite maal kan jedhuudha, qabatamaan maalirrattis xiyyeeffata?
Naa’ol: Pirojektiin dhiyeesse ‘tiyuub saatalaayit’ jedhama. Saatalaayitiidhaan kan walabatuudha. Saatalaayitiin tiyuubii ol ba’ee daataawwan meetiroolojii, ho’inaafi qorra lafaa safaruuf kan tajaajiluudha. Saatalaayitichi altokko suura kaasnaan gara barbaaddetti jijjiiruu dandeessa.
Bariisaa: Saatalaayitii Itoophiyaan ji’a darbe furguggeessite keessaa qoodaa qabdaa?
Naa’ol: Lakki, achi keessaa qooda hinqabu.
Bariisaa: Teknolojiin ati amma hojjetaa jirtu maal jedhama, maaliifis kan ooluudha?
Naa’ol: Kanin hojjetaa jiru dirooniidha; diroonii qonnaa. Diroonittiin hojiilee adda addaa keessa galuu dandeessi. Kaayyoon koos xiqqoodhaan jalqabee guddisaa deemuudha. Garuu pirojektii diroonichaa ministirri Innooveeshiniifi Teknolojii ilaalanii naa dabarsanis kutaaleen hojii isaan itti qajeelchan naa raawwachuurra daran naan taphatan, na dhamaasan. Yeroo danuu itti deddeebi’een abdii kutee dhiise.
Bariisaa: Ati isaanirraa maal barbaaddee ture?
Naa’ol: Maallaqa pirojektichaa qofan gaafadhe. Kafaltiin biraa gaafadhe hinjiru. Mindaa naa kanfalaa hinjenneen. Ani baasii dhuunfaa koo nan danda’aa kan pirojektichaa naa kanfalaan jedheen. Isaanis naa kanfaluu hindandeenye dhiiseen gara mana barumsaa koo durii (Andinnat Intarnaashinaal) dhaqee barattoota kutaa tokkoffaa hanga 12fa barataa jiraniif haasaa nama kakaastu ykn onnachiistuu taasise.
Simannaan manni barumsichaa naa taasise akka kan mootummaa na hinrakkisne. Hamileen barattootaas natti tole. Barattoota mana barumsichaa wajjin baasiidhuma keenyaan yaaliif diroonii hojjenne. Isheenis suura kaastee odeeffannoo nuu fidde. Hojii akkanaa dhuunfaadhaan hojjechuun daran ulfaataa ta’us hojjenne. Sana booda kaampaanii hundeessee waan guddaa hojjechuu akka qabun of amansiise. Yeruma sana kaampaanii NJet jedhamus hundeesse.
Bariisaa: Duubattin si deebisaatii, namoota waa’eesaa gadifageenyaan hinhubanneef saatalaayitiin maaliin, faayidaansaa hoo? Diroonii wajjin hoo walitti dhufeenya qabaa?
Naa’ol: Oggaa teknolojii kalaqxu hanqinni hubannoo mudachuu mala. Kanneen akka qananiitti (‘laxuray’) fudhatanii qeeqanis jiru. Yeroo baay’ee namoonni waan akkanaa kaasan kanneen hinbaranneedha. Pirojektii akkanaarratti waan akkanaa gaafachuun gatii hinqabu. Saatalaayitiin hinfayyadu ykn hinbarbaachisu yoo ta’e maaliif bilbila fayyadamu? Bilbilli saatalaayitii malee akkamitti hojjeta? Maaliif waggaatti doolaarri miliyoona 250 kaampaanii saatalaayitiif kanfalama? Feesbuukiinsaanii akkamitti hojjeta? Miidiyaaleen hoo akkamitti hojjetu? Egaa namoonni saatalaayitiin maaliif barbaachise jedhan warra kanumallee hubatanii hinbeekneedha.
Walumaagalatti saatalaayitiin teknolojii faayidaa olaanaa qabuudha. Kan hubachiisuu qabnus faayidaa saatalaayitiin kennuudha. Saatalaayitiin maalinni kan jetteef gababinaan saatalaayitii akaakuuwwan afurtu jiru. Kanneen gara dachee ilaalan sadiitu jiru. Dacheerraa gara samiitti kan ilaalu ammoo tokko jira. Kanneen gara dachee ilaalan faayidaalee adda addaa qabu; kan kominikeeshinii, mil’annaa (observation)faa. Kan akka ‘remote sensoser’ jennee furguggeessine jechuudha.
Saatalaayitoonni sadan dachee qo’atu. Afraffaan ammoo kaameeraan naanna’ee waan dacheerraa gara samii jiru ilaala. Kan nuti yeroo darbe mil’annaa dacheetiif ergine riimoot seensiingiidha, ETRSS-1. Ittaansinee kan kominikeeshinii ergina.
Bariisaa: Saatalaayiticha Chaayinaadhaa furguggeessuun maaliif barbaachise?
Naa’ol: Saatalaayitii Itoophiyaarraa rookkeetiidhaan erguu hindandeenyu. Tekonolojiisaas ta’e humnasaa hinqabnu. Rokkeettii hojjechuun yeroo dheeraafi pirojektii guddaa gaafata. Garuu saatalaayiticha namuma keenyaan hojjennee Chaayinaarraa furguggeessinus saatalaayitiidhuma keenya. Addunyaarraa biyya sadii ykn afur qofa humna qabaatee saatalaayitii ergaa kan jiru.
Biyyoonni addunyaa akkuma jiranitti afranuma kanneenitti fayyadamaa jiru. Nutis isaanitti fayyadamuun keenya dirqama. Amma asumatti hojjechuu dandeenya jechaa jirra. Garuu saatalaayitii hojjechuunis akka rookkeettii ta’uu baatus pirojektii ulfaataadha. Saatalaayitii hojjetamurratti dogoggoorri mul’achuu hinqabu. Eddii nama harkaa baatee akkitti sirreessan hinjiru. Dogoggorraan hojiin kee fashalaa’e jechuudha. Tekonolojiin kun akka biyyaatti humna guddaa nuu ta’aa deema. Saatalaayitii hojjechuun yeroo guddaa barbaada. Diroonii garuu yeroo gabaabaa keessatti hojjechuun ni danda’ama.
Ani amma dizaayinii diroonii nan qaba. Mirkaneessisuu qaba. Garuu dachee kanarra diroononni hojjetaman jiru. Diroononni baay’een walfakkaatu. Diroonii akaakuu afurtu jiru. Dirooniin helikoftarootaa jira. Dirooniin qonnarratti, faayidaa qo’annoof kaartaa kaasuufaa dabalatee faayidaalee hedduu qaba. Kanneen keessaa kan biyya keenya fayyadu kan qonnaa waan ta’eef isarratti hojjetamaa jira. Diroonii kana asumatti hojjechuu dandeenya.
Bariisaa: Kaampaaniin kee NJet jedhamu diroonii hojjeta jechuudhaa?
Naa’ol: Kaampaaniin koo NJet jedhamu bakkawwan lamatti qoodama. Tokkoffaa akka bakka leenjiifi yaaliitti kan tajaajluudha. Kan biraa bakka itti dirooniin omishamu ykn itti hojjetamuudha. Iddoon itti leenjiin kennamuufi yaaliitti dargaggoota tajaajilli meeshaa kiraadhaanis ta’u itti kennamuudha.
Diroonii qofa otoo hintaane dargaggoota konkolaataan hojjechuu barbaadaniif maashinii sibila muru ni kenna; akkuma fedhiisaatti jechuudha. Kun ammoo dargaggoonni yaadasaanii gara gochaatti akka jijjiiraniif darbees gochicha gara bizinasiitti jijjiiraniif wiirtuun ‘enquubeetar’ jedhamu qaba.
Bakka kanatti pilaaniin bizinasii akkamitti akka barreeffamuufi hogganurratti leenji ni kennama. Isa yaada malee maallaqa hinqabne ni gargaarra, yaadni qabeenya guddaa waan ta’eef. Fakkeenyaaf ani akka nama tokkootti waggoota 20 dhufanitti mindeeffamtoota kuma 10 qofa yoon qabaadhe kun biyya ummata miliyoona 100 qabuuf homaa miti.
Biyyoonni biroos haaluma kanaan kan guddatan waan ta’eef waljalaa babal’isaa deemuun ni danda’ama. Kaampaaniin keenyas kanarratti xiyyeeffatee hojjeta. Kan amma omishuuf jennu diroonii qonnaati. Waggaa tokkoofi walakkaa keessatti hojii eegala. Saatalaayitiin hawaarra jira. Dirooniin garuu dacheedhumarra taa’ee hojjeta; akkuma xayyaaraa jechuudha.
Bariisaa: Dirooniin qonnaa kun maaliif fayyada?
Naa’ol: Fakkeenyaaf dirooniin qoricha aramaa namni cimaan otoo nyaachuufillee jedhee hojiisaa addaan hinkutiin tokko sa’aatiiwwan 12:00 keessatti lafa hektaara tokkoofi walakkaa biifu dirooniin kun sa’aatii walfakkaataatti lafa hektaara miliyoona tokkoo olirratti biifuu danda’a. Tarii keemikaalli biifamu sun kaansarii nama qabsiisuus danda’a. Oggaa namaan biifamu qisaasamni qorichaas ni uumama. Dirooniin garuu haala kanaan hojii milkaa’aa hojjetti.
Qoricha biiftus hanga barbaachisu safarachaati. Waan hojjettu sana suuraas kaasaa odeeffannoo funaanaa deemti. Kaartaa ni kaasti. Daqiiqaa 06 keessatti lafa hektaara tokko biiftee fixxi.
Bariisaa: Maqaan teknikii teknoloji kanaa maal jedhama?
Naa’ol: Maqaan teknikii diroonii kanaa “Agricultural UAV ykn Unman Aerial Vehicle” (xiyyaara nama hinqabne) jedhama. Biyya kanatti ammoo “Remote Pilot Aircraft (RPA)” jedhama. Dirooniin tokko seensarii xiqqoo xuxxuquu qofaan waantota kumootaan lakkaa’aman hojjechuu dandeessi. Kun qonnarratti hojiirra oollaan qisaasamni keemikaalaa hinjiraatu. Omishtummaan keenya daran dabala.
Bariisaa: Amma maal hojjechaa jirtu ree?
Naa’ol: Ammaan tana maashinaroota alaa galchaa waljalaa omishaa jirra. Ji’a tokko keessatti omishnee baasna. Diroonii kana maddiittis pirojektota guguddoo qabanneerra. Akeekni guddaan kaampaanii keenyaa dargaggoota hirmaachisuudha. Falaasamni ani hojii kana ittiin geggeessaa jirus, “Rakkoon Itoophiyaa lammiidhumashiitiin haa furamu” kan jedhuudha. Ammaan tana lammiileen biyyoota hedduu dhufaa jiru. Nuti isaan hinbarbaadnu.
Rakkoon Itoophiyaa ijoolleedhumashiitiin furama yaada jedhun qaba. Yaada kana ka’umsa godhachuun hojiilee danuu hojjechuuf yaadneerra. Xiyyeeffannaa ijoon kaampaanii keenyaa maallaqa ykn bu’aa argachuu otoo hintaane haala kamiin dargaggoota yaada kalaqaa qaban gargaarra kan jedhuudha. Yoo nama gargaarte bu’aan barbaadamu ni dhufa. Waanti guddaan garuu nama dandeettii qabu argachuudha. Namni har’a utubnu boru biyya kan fayyadu ta’a. Akeekni keenyas akka namni yaada kalaqaa keessoosaa jiru baasee ittifayyadamuuf onnachiisuufi karaa itti agarsiisuudha.
Bariisaa: Otoo saatalaayitoonni adda addaa jiranuu maaliif kan qonnaarratti xiyyeeffatte?
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Naa’ol: Kalaqawwan teknolojiitti aansee fakkii baay’een jaaladha. Dhiyeenyuma kana Finfineetti suuraafi fakkii agarsiisaaf dhiyyeesseen ture. Fakkii Doktar Abiyyi noobeelii qabate ofuma kootii hojjedhen badhaase. Fakkii baay’een jaaladha.
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